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Zanik miejsca na dysku systemowym

Post autor: lolq »

z nie wyjaśnionych przyczyn zabrało mi ponad 1,5 gb o.O
ale jak? jeszcze dosłownie kilka minut temu wszystko bylo ok, kompilowałem sobie program w C (ale to nie ma z tym nic wspólnego), 2 razy tylko mi się zcrashował UltraISO pod wine, ale poza tym nic, miałem jakieś 1,6 gb i teraz mam 140 mb nic więcej nie odpalałem, nic nie zasysałem, nie wbijałem na potencjalnie groźne strony (zresztą podobno na linuksa nie ma wirusów...) zrestartowałem kompa i nic nie dało
hmm :sad:
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Post autor: Admc »

lolq pisze:UltraISO pod wine
Po co ci program z windowsa skoro masz natywne programy. Z edycją iso dobrze radzi sobie file-roller.

A miejsce pewnie zajęły ci paczki pobierane przez apt-geta.
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no ok ale UltraISo mam już od dawna więc to nie jego wina
a nic teraz nie pobierałem, ostatnia rzecz to jakoś ok. polutnia PlayOnLinux a teraz nagle w oczach normalnie znikalo miejsce bardzo szybko nie wiem powiedzmy w przeciagu 2-3 min ?
o.O nie mam pojęcia czy to zapchało /home bo w /usr też mam sporo a nie pamiętam już czy tyle było xD

edit: wyłączyłem kompa, po kilku minutach załączyłem i patrze, miejsce powróciło całe 1,6 gb :O
nie rozumiem dlaczego zabrało samo, wcześniej po resiu nic, a teraz po kolejnym powróciło :) heh

a jeszcze jedno: jest jakaś stronka z opisanymi katalogami linuksa? gdzie co jest, w jakim katalogu co się znajduje, co za co odpowiada itp. jeszcze wszystkiego nie pojąłem, a nie chciał bym popsuć, więc przydało by się coś takiego na wzór hmm... "mapki" ? :D
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Post autor: lays »

Pewnie jakiś proces zasyfił Ci katalog /tmp, którego zawartość jest czyszczona przy uruchamianiu systemu.

Tutaj masz przystępnie opisane drzewo katalogów Linuksa.
Z prodem kozde g*wno płynie, ale pod prod ino slochetno rybo.
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dzięki :)

edit: problem powrócił :-x
odnalazłem plik, który tak mi zapycha, w tej chwili mam 0 bajtów wolnego miejsca
/home/nazwa_uzytkownika/.xsession-errors <- ten plik zajmuje mi 1,6 gb w tej chwili, chciałęm go podejrzeć co w nim jest ale uruchamianie go trwało by wieki ;/
co to za plik o.O
mogę go wywalić czy lepiej nie?

EDIT:
zależy mi na czasie
pomoże ktoś?
niby aktualnie nie mam tego problemu ale to jak dla mnie jest dość niepokojące, by plik, który ma kilka KB nagle w przeciągu kilkunastu sekund urusł do 1,6 gb ;O
2 razy tak byłe, ale planuję instalację świeżej wersji 10.04 na PC więc chcę wiedzieć co to za plik/problem by na przyszłość wiedzieć jak się zachować :P

poprzednio gdy miałem 0 kb wolnego miejsca, zrobiłem restart, loguję się: wpisałęm hasło i od razu mnie wyrzuciło z powrotem do logowania, wpisuję ponownie i się zalogował tylko znikły info takie jak sieć (musiałem od nowa wpisać sobie klucz wpa2) w konsoli wszystkie poprzednie polecenia też znikły...

tak aktualnie wygląda mój plik .xsession-errors

Kod: Zaznacz cały

/etc/gdm/Xsession: Beginning session setup...
Setting IM through im-switch for locale=pl_PL.
Start IM through /home/artur/.xinput.d/pl_PL linked to /etc/X11/xinit/xinput.d/none.
GNOME_KEYRING_SOCKET=/tmp/keyring-SOGfZO/socket
SSH_AUTH_SOCK=/tmp/keyring-SOGfZO/socket.ssh

(gnome-settings-daemon:1519): GLib-CRITICAL **: g_propagate_error: assertion `src != NULL' failed

(gnome-settings-daemon:1519): GLib-CRITICAL **: g_propagate_error: assertion `src != NULL' failed
/home/artur/.themes/Murrina-LiNsta/gtk-2.0/gtkrc:71: Murrine configuration option "hilight_ratio" will be deprecated in future releases. Please use "highlight_shade" instead.
/home/artur/.themes/Murrina-LiNsta/gtk-2.0/gtkrc:71: Murrine configuration option "hilight_ratio" will be deprecated in future releases. Please use "highlight_shade" instead.
/home/artur/.themes/Murrina-LiNsta/gtk-2.0/gtkrc:71: Murrine configuration option "hilight_ratio" will be deprecated in future releases. Please use "highlight_shade" instead.
/home/artur/.themes/Murrina-LiNsta/gtk-2.0/gtkrc:1009: Murrine configuration option "hilight_ratio" will be deprecated in future releases. Please use "highlight_shade" instead.
/home/artur/.themes/Murrina-LiNsta/gtk-2.0/gtkrc:1009: Murrine configuration option "hilight_ratio" will be deprecated in future releases. Please use "highlight_shade" instead.
/home/artur/.themes/Murrina-LiNsta/gtk-2.0/gtkrc:1009: Murrine configuration option "hilight_ratio" will be deprecated in future releases. Please use "highlight_shade" instead.
Ostrzeżenie menedżera okien: Wczytanie motywu "" się nie powiodło: Odnalezienie prawidłowego pliku dla motywu  się nie powiodło

Ostrzeżenie menedżera okien: Odczytanie zapisanego pliku sesji "/home/artur/.config/metacity/sessions/10a605889b51f5903128038374028292000000014540028.ms" się nie powiodło: Otwarcie pliku "/home/artur/.config/metacity/sessions/10a605889b51f5903128038374028292000000014540028.ms" się nie powiodło: No such file or directory
/home/artur/.themes/Murrina-LiNsta/gtk-2.0/gtkrc:71: Murrine configuration option "hilight_ratio" will be deprecated in future releases. Please use "highlight_shade" instead.
/home/artur/.themes/Murrina-LiNsta/gtk-2.0/gtkrc:1009: Murrine configuration option "hilight_ratio" will be deprecated in future releases. Please use "highlight_shade" instead.
/home/artur/.themes/Murrina-LiNsta/gtk-2.0/gtkrc:71: Murrine configuration option "hilight_ratio" will be deprecated in future releases. Please use "highlight_shade" instead.
/home/artur/.themes/Murrina-LiNsta/gtk-2.0/gtkrc:1009: Murrine configuration option "hilight_ratio" will be deprecated in future releases. Please use "highlight_shade" instead.
/home/artur/.themes/Murrina-LiNsta/gtk-2.0/gtkrc:71: Murrine configuration option "hilight_ratio" will be deprecated in future releases. Please use "highlight_shade" instead.
/home/artur/.themes/Murrina-LiNsta/gtk-2.0/gtkrc:1009: Murrine configuration option "hilight_ratio" will be deprecated in future releases. Please use "highlight_shade" instead.
Checking for Xgl: /home/artur/.themes/Murrina-LiNsta/gtk-2.0/gtkrc:71: Murrine configuration option "hilight_ratio" will be deprecated in future releases. Please use "highlight_shade" instead.
/home/artur/.themes/Murrina-LiNsta/gtk-2.0/gtkrc:1009: Murrine configuration option "hilight_ratio" will be deprecated in future releases. Please use "highlight_shade" instead.
not present. 
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/home/artur/.themes/Murrina-LiNsta/gtk-2.0/gtkrc:1009: Murrine configuration option "hilight_ratio" will be deprecated in future releases. Please use "highlight_shade" instead.
xset q doesn't reveal the location of the log file. Using fallback /var/log/Xorg.0.log 

(cairo-clock:1562): Gtk-WARNING **: GtkSpinButton: setting an adjustment with non-zero page size is deprecated

(cairo-clock:1562): Gtk-WARNING **: GtkSpinButton: setting an adjustment with non-zero page size is deprecated

(cairo-clock:1562): libglade-WARNING **: could not find a parent that handles internal children for `vbox'
/home/artur/.themes/Murrina-LiNsta/gtk-2.0/gtkrc:71: Murrine configuration option "hilight_ratio" will be deprecated in future releases. Please use "highlight_shade" instead.
/home/artur/.themes/Murrina-LiNsta/gtk-2.0/gtkrc:1009: Murrine configuration option "hilight_ratio" will be deprecated in future releases. Please use "highlight_shade" instead.
/home/artur/.themes/Murrina-LiNsta/gtk-2.0/gtkrc:71: Murrine configuration option "hilight_ratio" will be deprecated in future releases. Please use "highlight_shade" instead.
/home/artur/.themes/Murrina-LiNsta/gtk-2.0/gtkrc:1009: Murrine configuration option "hilight_ratio" will be deprecated in future releases. Please use "highlight_shade" instead.
/home/artur/.themes/Murrina-LiNsta/gtk-2.0/gtkrc:71: Murrine configuration option "hilight_ratio" will be deprecated in future releases. Please use "highlight_shade" instead.
/home/artur/.themes/Murrina-LiNsta/gtk-2.0/gtkrc:1009: Murrine configuration option "hilight_ratio" will be deprecated in future releases. Please use "highlight_shade" instead.
/home/artur/.themes/Murrina-LiNsta/gtk-2.0/gtkrc:71: Murrine configuration option "hilight_ratio" will be deprecated in future releases. Please use "highlight_shade" instead.
/home/artur/.themes/Murrina-LiNsta/gtk-2.0/gtkrc:71: Murrine configuration option "hilight_ratio" will be deprecated in future releases. Please use "highlight_shade" instead.
/home/artur/.themes/Murrina-LiNsta/gtk-2.0/gtkrc:1009: Murrine configuration option "hilight_ratio" will be deprecated in future releases. Please use "highlight_shade" instead.
/home/artur/.themes/Murrina-LiNsta/gtk-2.0/gtkrc:1009: /home/artur/.themes/Murrina-LiNsta/gtk-2.0/gtkrc:71: Murrine configuration option "hilight_ratio" will be deprecated in future releases. Please use "highlight_shade" instead.
Murrine configuration option "hilight_ratio" will be deprecated in future releases. Please use "highlight_shade" instead.
/home/artur/.themes/Murrina-LiNsta/gtk-2.0/gtkrc:1009: Murrine configuration option "hilight_ratio" will be deprecated in future releases. Please use "highlight_shade" instead.
gnome-session[1454]: WARNING: Could not launch application 'wicd-tray.desktop': Unable to start application: Wykonanie procesu potomnego "wicd-client" (No such file or directory) się nie powiodło
Detected PCI ID for VGA: 
Checking for texture_from_pixmap: /home/artur/.themes/Murrina-LiNsta/gtk-2.0/gtkrc:71: Murrine configuration option "hilight_ratio" will be deprecated in future releases. Please use "highlight_shade" instead.
/home/artur/.themes/Murrina-LiNsta/gtk-2.0/gtkrc:71: Murrine configuration option "hilight_ratio" will be deprecated in future releases. Please use "highlight_shade" instead.
/home/artur/.themes/Murrina-LiNsta/gtk-2.0/gtkrc:1009: Murrine configuration option "hilight_ratio" will be deprecated in future releases. Please use "highlight_shade" instead.
/home/artur/.themes/Murrina-LiNsta/gtk-2.0/gtkrc:1009: Murrine configuration option "hilight_ratio" will be deprecated in future releases. Please use "highlight_shade" instead.
present. 
Checking for non power of two support: 
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/home/artur/.themes/Murrina-LiNsta/gtk-2.0/gtkrc:1009: Murrine configuration option "hilight_ratio" will be deprecated in future releases. Please use "highlight_shade" instead.
** Message: Reading of RFKILL events failed
** Message: killswitches state 3

(polkit-gnome-authentication-agent-1:1618): GLib-GObject-WARNING **: cannot register existing type `_PolkitError'

(polkit-gnome-authentication-agent-1:1618): GLib-CRITICAL **: g_once_init_leave: assertion `initialization_value != 0' failed
** Message: killswitches state 3
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Checking for Composite extension: present. 
Checking screen 1Comparing resolution (1024x600) to maximum 3D texture size (2048): Passed.
Checking for Software Rasterizer: Not present. 
Checking for nVidia: not present. 
Checking for FBConfig: present. 
Checking for Xgl: not present. 
** (gnome-panel:1556): DEBUG: Adding applet 0.
** (gnome-panel:1556): DEBUG: Initialized Panel Applet Signaler.
** (gnome-panel:1556): DEBUG: Adding applet 1.
** (gnome-panel:1556): DEBUG: Adding applet 2.
** (gnome-panel:1556): DEBUG: Adding applet 3.
/home/artur/.themes/Murrina-LiNsta/gtk-2.0/gtkrc:71: Murrine configuration option "hilight_ratio" will be deprecated in future releases. Please use "highlight_shade" instead.
/home/artur/.themes/Murrina-LiNsta/gtk-2.0/gtkrc:71: Murrine configuration option "hilight_ratio" will be deprecated in future releases. Please use "highlight_shade" instead.
/home/artur/.themes/Murrina-LiNsta/gtk-2.0/gtkrc:1009: Murrine configuration option "hilight_ratio" will be deprecated in future releases. Please use "highlight_shade" instead.
/home/artur/.themes/Murrina-LiNsta/gtk-2.0/gtkrc:1009: Murrine configuration option "hilight_ratio" will be deprecated in future releases. Please use "highlight_shade" instead.

** (nm-applet:1622): WARNING **: Invalid connection /system/networking/connections/22: 'NMSettingWireless' / 'ssid' invalid: 2

** (nautilus:1557): WARNING **: No marshaller for signature of signal 'UploadFinished'

** (nautilus:1557): WARNING **: No marshaller for signature of signal 'DownloadFinished'

** (nautilus:1557): WARNING **: No marshaller for signature of signal 'ShareCreateError'
** (gnome-panel:1556): DEBUG: Adding applet 4.
** (gnome-panel:1556): DEBUG: Adding applet 5.
WARNING: Application calling GLX 1.3 function "glXCreatePixmap" when GLX 1.3 is not supported!  This is an application bug!
** (gnome-panel:1556): DEBUG: Adding applet 6.
** (gnome-panel:1556): DEBUG: Adding applet 7.
CachingBackend: Loading instances from cache
CachingBackend: Loading <ClearWeather1>
** (gnome-panel:1556): DEBUG: Adding applet 8.
No global tempdir found, creating new one.
Temp directory /tmp/screenlets created.
Creating new entry for ClearWeatherScreenlet in /tmp/screenlets/screenlets.artur.running
** (nm-applet:1622): DEBUG: foo_client_state_changed_cb
Loading instances in: /home/artur/.config/Screenlets/ClearWeather/default/
File: ClearWeather1.ini
/usr/bin/compiz.real (core) - Warn: Plugin 'ccp' already active
/home/artur/.config/Screenlets/ClearWeather/default/ClearWeather1
LOAD NEW THEME: default
FOUND: /usr/share/screenlets/ClearWeather/themes/default
/usr/bin/compiz.real (core) - Warn: Plugin 'ccp' already active
/usr/bin/compiz.real (core) - Error: Plugin 'text' not loaded.

/usr/bin/compiz.real (shift) - Warn: No compatible text plugin loaded.
/usr/bin/compiz.real (core) - Error: Plugin 'text' not loaded.

/usr/bin/compiz.real (ring) - Warn: No compatible text plugin found.
theme.conf found! Loading option-overrides.
theme.conf loaded: 
Name: Stardock weather icons
Author: Stardock Corporation
Version: 1.0
Info: These weather images are (c) 2003 by Stardock Corporation.  All rights reserved.
Initializing nautilus-gdu extension
/usr/lib/pymodules/python2.6/screenlets/drawing.py:114: DeprecationWarning: use copy pango.FontDescription.set_family instead
  self.p_fdesc.set_family_static(font)
WARNING - add_default_menuitems and add_menuitems should be set in on_init ,menu values will be displayed incorrectly
WARNING - add_default_menuitems and add_menuitems should be set in on_init ,menu values will be displayed incorrectly
Set options in ClearWeatherScreenlet
LOAD NEW THEME: default
FOUND: /usr/share/screenlets/ClearWeather/themes/default
theme.conf found! Loading option-overrides.
theme.conf loaded: 
Name: Stardock weather icons
Author: Stardock Corporation
Version: 1.0
Info: These weather images are (c) 2003 by Stardock Corporation.  All rights reserved.
Screenlet has been initialized.
Restored instances from session 'default' ...
Error retrieving weather data [Errno socket error] [Errno -2] Name or service not known
/usr/bin/compiz.real (video) - Warn: No 8 bit GLX pixmap format, disabling YV12 image format
/usr/bin/compiz.real (core) - Error: Plugin 'text' not loaded.

/usr/bin/compiz.real (thumbnail) - Warn: No compatible text plugin found.
Traceback (most recent call last):
  File "/usr/share/screenlets/ClearWeather/ClearWeatherScreenlet.py", line 129, in update_weather_data
    temp = self.parseWeatherData()
  File "/usr/share/screenlets/ClearWeather/ClearWeatherScreenlet.py", line 170, in parseWeatherData
    self.show_error(("Error retrieving weather data", e))
  File "/usr/share/screenlets/ClearWeather/ClearWeatherScreenlet.py", line 565, in show_error
    reasonstr = "\nReason: %s" % reason if reason is not None else ""
TypeError: not all arguments converted during string formatting
/usr/bin/compiz.real (cube) - Warn: Failed to load slide: /usr/share/gdm/themes/Human/ubuntu.png
Nautilus-Share-Message: Called "net usershare info" but it failed: "net usershare" zwrócił błąd 255: net usershare: cannot open usershare directory /var/lib/samba/usershares. Error No such file or directory
Please ask your system administrator to enable user sharing.

** (nm-applet:1622): DEBUG: foo_client_state_changed_cb
** (gnome-panel:1556): DEBUG: Adding applet 9.
WARNING: Application calling GLX 1.3 function "glXDestroyPixmap" when GLX 1.3 is not supported!  This is an application bug!
** (gnome-panel:1556): DEBUG: Adding applet 10.
** (gnome-panel:1556): DEBUG: Adding applet 11.
** (gnome-panel:1556): DEBUG: Adding applet 12.
/home/artur/.themes/Murrina-LiNsta/gtk-2.0/gtkrc:71: Murrine configuration option "hilight_ratio" will be deprecated in future releases. Please use "highlight_shade" instead.
/home/artur/.themes/Murrina-LiNsta/gtk-2.0/gtkrc:1009: Murrine configuration option "hilight_ratio" will be deprecated in future releases. Please use "highlight_shade" instead.
evolution-alarm-notify-Message: Setting timeout for 57021 1280440800 1280383779
evolution-alarm-notify-Message:  Fri Jul 30 00:00:00 2010

evolution-alarm-notify-Message:  Thu Jul 29 08:09:39 2010

/home/artur/.themes/Murrina-LiNsta/gtk-2.0/gtkrc:71: Murrine configuration option "hilight_ratio" will be deprecated in future releases. Please use "highlight_shade" instead.
/home/artur/.themes/Murrina-LiNsta/gtk-2.0/gtkrc:1009: Murrine configuration option "hilight_ratio" will be deprecated in future releases. Please use "highlight_shade" instead.
/home/artur/.themes/Murrina-LiNsta/gtk-2.0/gtkrc:71: Murrine configuration option "hilight_ratio" will be deprecated in future releases. Please use "highlight_shade" instead.
/home/artur/.themes/Murrina-LiNsta/gtk-2.0/gtkrc:1009: Murrine configuration option "hilight_ratio" will be deprecated in future releases. Please use "highlight_shade" instead.

(firefox-bin:1892): GLib-WARNING **: g_set_prgname() called multiple times
/home/artur/.themes/Murrina-LiNsta/gtk-2.0/gtkrc:71: Murrine configuration option "hilight_ratio" will be deprecated in future releases. Please use "highlight_shade" instead.
/home/artur/.themes/Murrina-LiNsta/gtk-2.0/gtkrc:1009: Murrine configuration option "hilight_ratio" will be deprecated in future releases. Please use "highlight_shade" instead.
/home/artur/.themes/Murrina-LiNsta/gtk-2.0/gtkrc:71: Murrine configuration option "hilight_ratio" will be deprecated in future releases. Please use "highlight_shade" instead.
/home/artur/.themes/Murrina-LiNsta/gtk-2.0/gtkrc:1009: Murrine configuration option "hilight_ratio" will be deprecated in future releases. Please use "highlight_shade" instead.

(nautilus:2051): Eel-CRITICAL **: eel_preferences_get_boolean: assertion `preferences_is_initialized ()' failed
/home/artur/.themes/Murrina-LiNsta/gtk-2.0/gtkrc:71: Murrine configuration option "hilight_ratio" will be deprecated in future releases. Please use "highlight_shade" instead.
/home/artur/.themes/Murrina-LiNsta/gtk-2.0/gtkrc:1009: Murrine configuration option "hilight_ratio" will be deprecated in future releases. Please use "highlight_shade" instead.
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